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Modern political values, ancient drama

Curated & Moderated by:
Anna-Kynthia Bousdoukou
The SNF Dialogues hosted a discussion on the timeless links between politics and ancient drama, as well as the pertinent messages they still offer till this day.
When
Wednesday 28 September 2022, at 18:00
Where
Roof of the National Museum of Contemporary Art (EMST)
Dialoguers

Echoes from theater traditions in ancient Athens that continue to reverberate across the millennia in current global politics were the focus of the 54th SNF Dialogues discussion, which took place on Wednesday, 28 September, on the roof of the National Museum of Contemporary Art in Athens. The audience and the speakers identified themes in ancient plays, as well as ways in which ancient theater was inextricably intertwined with civic participation, that still resonate with today’s environment of omnipresent polarization. Through an open discussion enlivened by questions from the audience, which included students, the Dialogues explored how ancient drama can shed light on contemporary public life, focusing on the lasting relevance of dramatic works over time and on political and social change.


The Dialogues discussion featured Irene Mountraki, Dramaturg and Head of the Drama, Library, Archive and International Relations Departments at the National Theatre of Greece, and Walter Puchner, Professor Emeritus of Theatre Studies at the National and Kapodistrian University of Athens.

It’s wrong to take democracy for granted. Democracy is something that already disappeared once in world history, between the 4th and the 18th centuries, and could very easily disappear again. As a contemporary of ours, Canadian-American filmmaker Stella Taylor, says: "Democracy does not exist, but when it’s gone we will miss it." So, it is something that may be crumbling; we may question it, but in a way it’s still here and we can - maybe, I don’t know if we can - defend it
Irene Mountraki, Dramaturg and Head of the Drama, Library, Archive and International Relations Departments of the National Theatre of Greece

Irene Mountraki

Turning to ancient comedy, Irene Mountraki discussed that “comedy was a predominantly political type of theater, meaning that it was a way to control what politicians did in Athens. That is why it was also very biting and poets could exercise the right to speak candidly and satirize individuals—so that they could criticize what was happening from the stage. And hence the awkwardness now, when we attempt to do comedy 25 centuries later, in a reality filled with political events and persons of interest dominating the news cycle. But it does demonstrate this ability of art to sway political life from the stage.”

Irene Mountraki

When we talk about dialogue today, we mean something else: to sit together, to understand each other - but that also happens on Facebook. But the body is missing, and dialogue is not just words.

Walter Puchner Bio

Walter Puchner, Professor Emeritus of Theater Studies at the National and Kapodistrian University of Athens

Walter Puchner

Reflecting on the value of dialogue, Walter Puchner mentioned that “in the citizen assemblies of ancient Greek city-states, for instance, one orator would give his opinion, then another, and so on, and then the vote would take place. When we talk about dialogue today, we mean something else: to sit together, to understand each other - but that also happens on Facebook. But the body is missing, and dialogue is not just words. It’s the whole body, it’s how I say something, the things that I cannot write down. The expression on my face, my eyes…. Perhaps I’m saying one thing, but you can see me winking and know that I mean something else. Entire worlds of expressiveness are lost in this way.”

Walter Puchner

A guest speaker at the SNF Dialogues event

Ancient tragedy had a mechanism that starts with hubris, which involves a human being, a mortal, transgressing the laws of the gods and being punished for it. And, today, we are in a parallel situation, in the sense that we are breaking the laws of nature, the absolute standard. And you cannot negotiate with nature. You can’t say to it: "I did this or that". It is what it is. And we are part of nature too. So, we are violating our own being and it is our brains that do this. But have you thought about the series of random coincidences that created this planet, where life was able to be created, along with a brain that is able to think about all of that?

The discussion, titled "Modern political values, ancient drama", serves as the starting point for a series of further SNF Dialogues discussions on the political values and institutions, which, although often compromised or challenged, serve as ideals and as touchstones for democracy and society globally. More information will be available soon on the SNF Dialogues website on snfdialogues.org

We were very pleased to hold the SNF Dialogues event on the beautiful rooftop of the National Museum of Contemporary Art, with which the Stavros Niarchos Foundation (SNF) has a special connection - following, of course, all the standard rules and guidelines for third-party space renting at the museum. The museum was completed through a €3 million donation from the SNF in July 2018.

The SNF Dialogues are curated and moderated by Anna-Kynthia Bousdoukou and are held through the journalism non-profit organization iMEdD (incubator for Media Education and Development).